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The best headers unfortunately aren't made anymore (Blackdog, and FastFab sorta). I would consider the only real options for you to be an AFX long-tube, or the TTI mid-length (they call it a long-tube). The TTI is nice except it isn't a true long-tube, and the AFX is cool except they are known to hang low. I couldn't see anything else being much of an improvement over the rather nice shorty header that came stock on your R/T. Keep in mind you might have to modify bolt holes on whicever header you get, I'm not sure if anyone still makes a header with a proper Magnum head exhaust bolt pattern. If you check the For Sale board on neons.org you may be able to find a Blackdog or FastFab mag header, thats really your best bet.
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Only real way to see gains on an R/T is to go with a Long Tube since the stock header is pretty much identical to the Borla short tube header.
Here's a thread that might help you out...
http://forum.2gn.org/viewtopic.php?t=1738
From what I've seen the arguement about which brand is better seems to goes back and forth, some say Kirk is fine, some say AF/X is good, ect... ect..
TTI looks the best by far based on pics but if I recall they don't make one with a magnum header flange. After seeing those pics of the Kirk.... it makes me lean more toward AF/X. Me personally I still haven't made up my mind which I'm going to go with when the time comes. Who knows, maybe I can try to contact TTI and maybe get them to make a magnum version.
EDIT... damn watching TV and trying to post... vinny jumped ahead...
Blackdog is wishfull thinking, is Barnett even making anything anymore?
Here's a thread that might help you out...
http://forum.2gn.org/viewtopic.php?t=1738
From what I've seen the arguement about which brand is better seems to goes back and forth, some say Kirk is fine, some say AF/X is good, ect... ect..
TTI looks the best by far based on pics but if I recall they don't make one with a magnum header flange. After seeing those pics of the Kirk.... it makes me lean more toward AF/X. Me personally I still haven't made up my mind which I'm going to go with when the time comes. Who knows, maybe I can try to contact TTI and maybe get them to make a magnum version.
EDIT... damn watching TV and trying to post... vinny jumped ahead...
Blackdog is wishfull thinking, is Barnett even making anything anymore?
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AFAIK, no chance in hell of getting a brand new blackdog.Diablo0 wrote: Blackdog is wishfull thinking, is Barnett even making anything anymore?
And yeah, pretty much wishful thinking, unless you get lucky like me.
Stumbled upon that on neons.org.
Magnum blackdog header, swaintech coated, flex pipe already on.
I paid a pretty penny, so I'll probably be holding onto it for awhile.
I would get an af/x over a kirk or tti anyday of the week.
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No neon for garage, is a 1999 dohc like a 1995 sohc if girl drives? Or is 1998 if man drives to track r/t?
Yeah I meant to say used in there, I know no ones getting a new BD....
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unless you beg and plead with clay to sell you soul to him to make you one. i occasionally still see him online, but i haven't talked to him in quite a while (maybe a year or so). last i chatted with him, i think he was talking about once he caught up on the blackdog work, he was gonna go work with his dad on hot-rods.fusion210 wrote:AFAIK, no chance in hell of getting a brand new blackdog.
anyway... a friend of mine had a kirk LT on his first gen, and he really liked it.
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Forget the Kirk, the TTI is almost identical but doesnt't have the big restrictive donut/flex coupler that a lot of people cut off.
But......
Now that I think about it the Kirk is available with a Magnum flange. I shoulda known that, I used to own one.
http://www.modernperformance.com/dcx/ki ... ader.shtml
I cut off the stupid donut thing and had a standard 2.5" 3-bolt flange welded on the end of the collector. I would highly recommend doing the same were you to go that route.
But......
Now that I think about it the Kirk is available with a Magnum flange. I shoulda known that, I used to own one.
http://www.modernperformance.com/dcx/ki ... ader.shtml
I cut off the stupid donut thing and had a standard 2.5" 3-bolt flange welded on the end of the collector. I would highly recommend doing the same were you to go that route.
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